{"id":151287,"date":"2023-06-27T07:00:50","date_gmt":"2023-06-27T05:00:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/?p=151287"},"modified":"2023-09-18T13:35:41","modified_gmt":"2023-09-18T11:35:41","slug":"tgv-paris-berlin-sarrebruck","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/en\/tgv-paris-berlin-sarrebruck","title":{"rendered":"Paris-Berlin TGV: Saarbr\u00fccken rather than Strasbourg"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The German and French authorities were in no doubt about this. <strong>The creation of a direct TGV line between Paris and Berlin is seen as a major step towards a European railway system.<\/strong>one of the major assets in the decarbonisation of the continent. Except that <strong>the controversy centred on the route the line should take<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><p>Geographically, the shortest - and most logical - route between <strong>Paris <\/strong>and <strong>Berlin <\/strong>should be carried out via the line of the current <strong>Thalys<\/strong>. Looking at a map, <strong>the most direct rail link is via Belgium, Cologne, Hanover and Berlin<\/strong>. This was the route taken by trains between the two capitals 40 years ago.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_151355\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-151355\" style=\"width: 466px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/leningrad-express.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-151355\" src=\"https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/leningrad-express.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"466\" height=\"349\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/leningrad-express.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/leningrad-express-300x225-derived.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/leningrad-express-80x60-derived.jpg 80w, https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/leningrad-express-265x198-derived.jpg 265w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 466px) 100vw, 466px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-151355\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">In the 70s, the Leningrad Express linked Paris to Berlin. The train from Paris and Li\u00e8ge stopped at Aachen and ended up in Berlin, with a stop at the border between the two Germanies (Helmstedt\/Marienborn) - Photo: LC<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n\n\n\n<aside class=\"wp-block-varenne-link-block\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/en\/grande-vitesse-france-allemagne-20220525.html\/\" data-id=\"125671\">A new Paris-Berlin TGV link on the rails in 2023<\/a><\/p><\/aside>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>But the joint venture on TGV\/ICE lines between SNCF and DB effectively excludes the German railway company.<\/strong>. The latter is not a stakeholder in the Thalys\/Eurostar consortium.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This left the lines further south via <strong>Strasbourg \/ Karlsruhe \/ Frankfurt<\/strong> or via <strong>Saarbr\u00fccken \/ Mannheim \/ Frankfurt<\/strong>. The Minister for Transport, Cl\u00e9ment Beaune, and French and French <a href=\"https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/en\/destination-mice-strasbourg-vert-20220912.html\/\">the city of Strasbourg<\/a> had in fact argued in favour of routing the future link through the capital of Alsace and Europe. <strong>In the end, the German Federal Ministry of Transport decided: it will be <a href=\"https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/en\/sarrebruck-allemagne-20221219.html\/\">Saarbr\u00fccken<\/a><\/strong>. The decision was confirmed by SNCF CEO Jean-Pierre Farandou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The line should therefore follow<strong> the Paris-Sarrebruck-Mannheim-Frankfurt-Berlin route<\/strong>This would make more sense. In addition, there is a project to improve the Saarbr\u00fccken-Mannheim route, which will save around ten minutes from 2025.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-strasbourg-pour-des-raisons-symboliques\">Strasbourg for symbolic reasons<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The decision by SNCF and Deutsche Bahn is also based on <strong>an overly complicated route via Strasbourg<\/strong>. These include <strong>bottlenecks on the Rhine bridge<\/strong> to Kehl. Finally, the stop in Strasbourg would have added another hundred kilometres or so. The additional financial cost of this stop would have outweighed its symbolic value.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The new link still has to be approved by DB-Netz (DB Network). But there is now little doubt about the final outcome. <strong>The launch of the new link is still scheduled for the end of 2024<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As a consolation prize for the Alsatian capital,<strong> DB has announced that the new Paris-Berlin night train will pass through Strasbourg<\/strong>. And there are already many direct trains to Berlin from Karlsruhe, a 40-minute train journey from Strasbourg.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Alsatian metropolis will also take comfort in knowing that <strong>the future Paris-Berlin TGV\/ICE line will only marginally save time for passengers<\/strong>. The trains will have to run within Germany on the existing lines of the regular network. Which is already particularly congested!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<aside class=\"wp-block-varenne-link-block\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/en\/italie-ferroviaire-france-20230830.html\/\" data-id=\"155547\">Landslides and accidents affect rail traffic to Italy<\/a><\/p><\/aside>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The launch of a direct Paris-Berlin TGV line should finally go via Saarbr\u00fccken rather than Strasbourg, despite lobbying from the French side. 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