{"id":43927,"date":"2016-01-29T11:18:39","date_gmt":"2016-01-29T10:18:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/interview-jerome-gratelle-pdg-et-co-fondateur-dair-indemnite-20160129.html"},"modified":"2016-02-11T18:34:23","modified_gmt":"2016-02-11T17:34:23","slug":"interview-with-jerome-gratelle-ceo-and-co-founder-of-air-indemnite","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/en\/interview-with-jerome-gratelle-ceo-and-co-founder-of-air-indemnite","title":{"rendered":"Interview with : J\u00e9r\u00f4me Gratelle, CEO and co-founder of Air Indemnit\u00e9"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>How does the Air Indemnit\u00e9 service work?<\/h2>\n<p><strong>J\u00e9r\u00f4me Gratelle -<\/strong> This service is available online to all passengers who have suffered a flight delay, cancellation or overbooking. We base our service on the 2004 European regulations, which provide for <strong>an allowance of between 250 and 600 euros<\/strong>The allowance depends on the distance of the flight. The allowance is based on a number of parameters, starting with distance, since three brackets have been set: 250 euros for flights of less than 1,500 km, 400 euros for flights of between 1,500 and 3,500 km, and 600 euros for flights of more than 3,500 km. Several parameters also define flight eligibility. The regulation covers all flights departing from an EU member country, and all flights arriving in one of these countries, provided that the carrier is European.<\/p>\n<h2>The development of codeshare flights is blurring the lines...<\/h2>\n<p><strong>J. G. - <\/strong>The regulations are very clear on this point, and take into account the nationality of the flight operator. There are other subtleties to take into account. In addition to distance and eligibility, the question of the airline's liability is also decisive. For example, a carrier cannot be responsible for the snow-related problems that disrupt an airport like New York JFK every winter. This is logical.<\/p>\n<h2>What happens in the event of a strike?<\/h2>\n<p><strong style=\"line-height: 20.4px;\">J. G. -\u00a0<\/strong>It is considered that a strike planned in due form, with advance notice, must be managed by the company, which is therefore supposed to have taken the appropriate measures to alleviate these difficulties. However, in the case of an air traffic control strike, the company is not responsible.<\/p>\n<h2>The very existence of companies like yours points to a problem: either the regulations are too unfamiliar to the general public, or the procedure for compelling the company to comply is too complex...<\/h2>\n<p><strong>J. G. - <\/strong>I think it's a bit of both. Overall, <strong>travellers are unaware of these regulations <\/strong>and don't make the claim, or don't make it properly. The financial stakes can also be high for airlines, given the number of passengers carried and the number of situations that can be compensated. It all depends on the airport, the region and the airline, but it is estimated that 2% of flights per day fall within the scope of these regulations. The subject is therefore important. There are several ways of dealing with the problem: the airlines may see it as a problematic cost, or they may see it as an issue that needs to be resolved. <strong>an opportunity to build customer loyalty<\/strong>. In fact, some companies are changing their behaviour. Given the importance of customer service today, a company can no longer afford to let claims go unanswered for 6 months or more...<\/p>\n<h2>What is the average time taken by your departments to process a case?<\/h2>\n<p><strong style=\"line-height: 20.4px;\">J. G. -\u00a0<\/strong>We settle more than 50% of claims in less than three months, and 80% in less than six months.<\/p>\n<h2>What is your relationship with the companies?<\/h2>\n<p><strong style=\"line-height: 20.4px;\">J. G. -\u00a0<\/strong>We also have a role to play with the carriers, and we need to show them that it's in their interest. Competition is tough in the airline industry: it's hard to win a customer, and just as hard to keep one. Furthermore, in the case of a non-eligible flight, it is much easier for us to explain to the passenger why the regulations do not entitle them to compensation. We have <strong>a position as a trusted third party<\/strong> The passenger can rest assured that we will do everything in our power to obtain the compensation to which he or she is entitled as quickly as possible, because our <strong>The business model is based on a success fee equivalent to 25% <\/strong>of the compensation received. And <strong>we take the stress out of customer relations <\/strong>between the carrier and the passenger<\/p>\n<h2>What proportion of your customers are business travellers?<\/h2>\n<p><strong style=\"line-height: 20.4px;\">J. G. -\u00a0<\/strong>We don't have precise figures, but it's estimated that two-thirds of trips in Europe are for leisure purposes, and one-third are for business purposes. I imagine that the breakdown of our customers is in line with this.<\/p>\n<h2>Wouldn't it be more logical, in the case of a business trip, to pay the compensation to the company that is paying and may suffer financial loss in the event of a missed contract, for example?<\/h2>\n<p><strong style=\"line-height: 20.4px;\">J. G. -\u00a0<\/strong>The regulations cover the passenger, <strong>the payer is not involved at all in this case<\/strong>. There are several opposing views: Travel Managers may consider that it would be more logical for the company, which pays for the ticket, to be compensated. The other view is that the loss is suffered by the traveller who is stranded. Often, the business traveller manages to make up for the delay, especially as people are increasingly able to work while on the move.<\/p>\n<h2>Why not introduce an allowance proportional to the price of the ticket?<\/h2>\n<p><strong style=\"line-height: 20.4px;\">J. G. -\u00a0<\/strong>In the mind of the legislator, the loss suffered is linked to the delay in arrival, which is independent of the price of the ticket. Insofar as it was virtually impossible to estimate the amount of loss suffered on a case-by-case basis, a flat-rate scale had to be defined. Over and above the desire to accurately assess this loss, it is also a question of<strong>an incentive-based approach<\/strong> to push them to take all the necessary measures to live up to their customer promise. In the end, it's quite healthy.<\/p>\n<h2>Delays and cancellations have therefore fallen since these regulations came into force...?<\/h2>\n<p><strong style=\"line-height: 20.4px;\">J. G. -\u00a0<\/strong>No, it would be wrong to say so. But the companies are questioning themselves, studying their organisation to better meet their commitments.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"2% of flights would be eligible for compensation under European regulations\" src=\"https:\/\/www.voyages-d-affaires.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/voyageuse_affaires_retard_0-3.jpg\" alt=\"A business traveller waits for her delayed flight (DR)\" width=\"460\" height=\"438\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>(DR)<\/em><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: left;\">What new services has Air Indemnit\u00e9 developed?<\/h2>\n<p><strong style=\"line-height: 20.4px;\">J. G. -\u00a0<\/strong>Air Indemnit\u00e9's historical activity consisted of serving the general public by managing the entire claims process on behalf of the traveller, once they had filed their claim online. But we gradually realised that some travel professionals were interested in what we had to offer. <strong>Several agencies have contacted us<\/strong>This was because they didn't necessarily have the time to deal with these procedures for their travellers, or because they lacked certain regulatory knowledge based on changes in case law. This is not really part of their core business, but they need to build customer loyalty in a highly competitive market. We have therefore worked on a new offering, building databases that enable us to track all the flights operated around the world every day, and identify delays and cancellations. We have also built an algorithm to determine with a high degree of reliability which flights are eligible for compensation.<\/p>\n<h2>In practical terms, how will your service fit in with that of the agency?<\/h2>\n<p><strong style=\"line-height: 20.4px;\">J. G. -\u00a0<\/strong>We offer travel agencies partnerships to identify which of the flights they have sold are potentially eligible for compensation. We can then contact the travellers concerned directly, and offer them a <strong>semi-automated handling of their complaints<\/strong>. Once they arrive at their destination, passengers receive an email from their travel agent explaining that their flight delay or cancellation gives rise to compensation. By clicking on a simple button, they can then access a <strong>fully pre-filled claims file<\/strong>The travel agent can then make the booking, as we will have already retrieved all the information relating to the flight concerned. This saves time for the traveller and enables the travel agency to add value to its support, to make the most of the time spent on the trip, and to make the most of the time spent with the traveller.<strong>be proactive towards travellers<\/strong>. Travel agencies don't really have precise information on how the trip is going if the customer doesn't come back to them, and the information is not structured. In a world where travel agencies are probably going to be looking to reposition themselves, there is a real demand from the market on this subject. We are <strong>in the right place at the right time<\/strong>with a very rewarding service. Several agencies are already interested and starting to integrate our offer.<\/p>\n<h2>How does your remuneration model evolve in these cases?<\/h2>\n<p><strong style=\"line-height: 20.4px;\">J. G. -\u00a0<\/strong>The success fee is 30%, mainly because the service is not the same. 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